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AEM: "fun," according to FastCompany

by anne elizabeth moore | 06/22/2007 | in hilarious | marketing independent culture | time to change the CV | UNMARKETABLE

FastCompany blogger Keith Hammonds is my new hero, 'cause somehow he found a way to work this phrase into the online content of the hip (and actually really good) business mag: "Mainstream marketers that try to send messages that look authentically countercultural, using the distribution apparatus of the underground itself, risk coming off as awkward, out of it, or just plain evil."

more here: http://blog.fastcompany.com/archives/2007/06/21/push_the_future_4.html

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Submitted by anne elizabeth moore on Fri, 06/22/2007 - 1:37pm.

This was posted on a blog as well, and I thought raised an interesting point: "This should've been a segue into a conversation about the shift in transparency, user generated content and the revolution in conversation and how she -- a prime mover in underground media -- presents a balance to the 'push' of corporate marketing and messaging co-opting done by the mainstream." (http://www.iconnectdots.com/ctd/2007/06/push_day_two_of.html)

Unfortunately, I'm not sure I'm interested in "transparency". I think there are entire arms of the corporate world—marketing being only one of them—that could be eliminated entirely. Not for the sake of transparency, but for the sake of *not being there at all.* Also, he seems to post there there has in fact been a revolution in conversation, and I think that is just more marketing. Not to mention, of course, that the idea that I alone could "balance" (and again: I'd prefer to eradicate over balance) the marketing arms of Nike, Starbucks, Toyota, Sony, Unilever, LucasFilm, and McNeil Pharmaceuticals is flattering, but laughable.

Now, if we all joined forces. . . .


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Submitted by r.john on Fri, 06/22/2007 - 2:53pm.

One might assert, that any aspect of underground culture widespread enough or popular enough, itself, to get noticed by these Corporations' marketing firms should be further assessed by the underground as being no longer viable.

In short, the fact that Nike knows about Minor Threat and feels that there is enough of the population out there that has seen and will automatically reference the image, proves that Minor Threat is no longer Minor and no longer a Threat - to quote Flava Flav on Nightflight.

Ultimately, the true aspects of any alternative's/underground movement can not be translated into language that is applicable or even coherent to the "conversation."


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Submitted by Seitan on Fri, 06/22/2007 - 4:50pm.

r.john wrote:
Ultimately, the true aspects of any alternative's/underground movement can not be translated into language that is applicable or even coherent to the "conversation."

I speak the international language of Love.


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