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Prada Punk?

by cassiopoeia | 01/05/2007 | in designer | fashion | glasses | image | moral dilemma | Politics | pressure | social commentary

Here's my question:

I like to think of myself as one of those punks who isn't in it for the image. Sometimes I'll get dressed up for a show or to party, but most of the time, I'd rather just wear fuzzy sweaters (it's cold here in New England, and ripped fishnets just don't insulate).

In any case, I do have a few accessories other than my body mods that I wear all the time to let people know where I'm coming from. I have a sweet pair of giant star earrings and a good colection of t-shirts from concerts.

I also have a Kenneth Cole studded watch that I wear every day, and yesterday I aquired my first pair of eyeglasses - I'm getting old. They were covered through my insurance company (I'm a unionized grad student - workers unite!), and so I got a fairly pricey pair for cheap, I just couldn't resist. Geeky Buddy-Holly-black-plastic with little stars on the sides that match my earrings and my neck tats.

My moral dilemma? They're Prada.

So the question, now that you've got the back story, is whether or not it's both punk and socially acceptible to wear these glasses. I mean, Prada stands for gratuitous consumerism, a major cause of the world's problems. On the other hand, I paid practically nothing for them, they've got real flair, and I need to see.

How do we balance all these pressures? We've got Punk, telling us to tell the world to shove it, but we can't do that without using some of what the outside world creates. We've got Hot Topic and every major designer incorporating our cultural markers - studs, black leather, tattoos, rips and safety pins, etc - into their Madison Avenue/Rodeo Drive inventories, so we have easy access to items that hep us send our message, if we're willing to give financial support to the institutions we're working against.

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fashion issues aside,
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Submitted by anne elizabeth moore on Fri, 01/05/2007 - 12:11pm.

i think the issue here shold be whether or not Prada is a company you wanna be supporting in any way, including by wearing these glasses, even if they're cheap. Whether or not you "look" punk just doesn't matter to people working their asses off to make the world a viable place for local music, art, and politics.

See discussion on front page for more, though—although again, apologies for the vitriol there, it wasn't aimed at you, it's just a convenient device to aid the discussion.


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I think...
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Submitted by Gordon lamb on Fri, 01/05/2007 - 1:36pm.

I think they're only punk if you dumpstered them. I read that somewhere.


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if you are hot enough to pull it off
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Submitted by r.john on Fri, 01/05/2007 - 11:36pm.

then so much can and will be forgiven.
that is the way the socio-sexual underground works.


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I believe it doesn't matter
Submitted by TMFJ on Sat, 01/06/2007 - 12:48pm.

I believe it doesn't matter how you dress. Music and clothes don't make you "punk." If you stand up for yourself and your beliefs, fight for what you believe in, and question authority, now that makes you punk.

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word.
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Submitted by Gordon lamb on Sat, 01/06/2007 - 6:43pm.

Punk is so cool.


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WORDER
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Submitted by r.john on Sat, 01/06/2007 - 8:26pm.

Prada Punk is sooo much cool.


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fer reallz.
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Submitted by Gordon lamb on Mon, 01/08/2007 - 3:11pm.

Like awesomely totally.


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Fashion is facism, that and as confusing as EPCOT Codes
Submitted by semitechgeek on Mon, 01/08/2007 - 10:28pm.

Personally, I'm just curious as to how you got the glasses.

Other than that, for you to use them with no problem, you need to either scrape off any reference to "Prada" or if you cannot, alter anything in relation to "Prada" significantly.

As long as you didn't know that the glasses were "Prada" before you got the glasses then you're ok

SemiTechGeek
"PA's always know how to fund it"

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Doesn't anyone realize....
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Submitted by Gordon lamb on Tue, 01/09/2007 - 2:22pm.

PRADA actually is an acronym for

Punks
Rock.
Always
Doing
Anarchy.

Pretty AWSM!


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necrotizing fasciitis says:
Submitted by necrotizing fas... on Tue, 02/27/2007 - 6:30pm.

I could care less. Most eyeglass frames covered by insurance are "designer" frames. I've never been concerned because 1) there are some aspects of modern capitalism that just aren't worth battling - it's hard enough to find a pair of glasses that don't make me look like a buffoon, and 2) never once have I noticed the brand of eyeglasses that somebody is wearing.

And FYI, the fact that you're concerned about matching your "tats" and what not is pretty much a dead giveaway that you are in fact "in it" for the image.

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aaron you are just not hot enough
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Submitted by r.john on Tue, 02/27/2007 - 7:56pm.

for me to forgive your lapses in capitalist resistance.

FOR REALLY!


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By "image" I mean any sort
Submitted by cassiopoeia on Wed, 02/28/2007 - 7:42am.

By "image" I mean any sort of coherent, recognizable presentation, by "not in it for the image" I mean I would never sacrifice my own comfort to look any particular way (like wearing a microminiskirt to a mosh pit so maybe Miret will pull me backstage 'n screw me).

Yeah, I bought the glasses 'cause the little stars look cool and they match the exact pattern of the tattoos on my neck (which I found serendipitous, since the ink is of the constellation Cassiopoeia, the legal name my Greek/hippie father gave me). I'm not in punk for the image of being a punk, but that won't stop me from cultivating AN image for the outside world to try to figure out. My problem with a designer being sprayed across me isn't that it's counter-punk, it's that I have extreme guilt feelings - I feel like I just cracked the whip in some sweatshop (even though they say "Made in Italy" right inside, and who cares about Italian children in sweatshops?)

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But . . .?
Submitted by cassiopoeia on Wed, 02/28/2007 - 7:47am.

anne elizabeth moore wrote:
i think the issue here shold be whether or not Prada is a company you wanna be supporting in any way, including by wearing these glasses, even if they're cheap. Whether or not you "look" punk just doesn't matter to people working their asses off to make the world a viable place for local music, art, and politics.

Yeah, fashion doesn't make a difference, unless it supports companies that work against the movement through unionbusting/outsourcing/etc.

But how can that be countered without researching every purchase you make, ever (apart from thrift stores, 'cause even if I'm not Christian, the profit they make from my $ is mostly going to a good cause)?

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