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stoopidjonny
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Gay subject title. But I have been entertained with these dreams that are biblical in nature. The usually involve St Paul in some way. What do you think it means? Sometimes I fancy that I am a new prophet here to bring the next era of Godness to the good people of the world.

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stoopidjonny
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Don't leave me, people.

I was just kidding. I don't have dreams.


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i had a recent spiritual pilgrimage in mexico

I had great dreams sleeping in the back of my truck miles from civilization in El Valle de los Gigantes and again in El Gran Desierto de Altar. I don't remember what they were other than that they were frantic and frightening while they happened yet gave me a great feeling of serenity once I awakened, as if the fact that my truck was stuck in the sand was a mere physical obstacle that could be easily overcome as long as all was aright on the metaphysical plane. And this proved to be so. I never had any organized religious influence in my life so I do not see Saint Paul or even Saint Francis or Padre Kino; all I got is this hippie earth mother shit.


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I am one of those saps that feel compelled to talk dreams

The dream of St Jon, the Mad Prophet

I was walking down a boardwalk when I notice a crowd gathered at the end of a pier. Above them floats some crazy thing. It's like all these machine parts moving and transforming faster than the eye can see, like closed eye hallucinations on DXM. Then it starts shooting lightening into everyone's heads but mine. I get closer and a big pink beam nail one dude only. Then the crowd parts and he walks straight for me. He doesn't look friendly so I start backing up and explaining to them that I am one of them. That's it. I think the guy is St Paul and he's coming for me.


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i don't know from saint paul

I'm not Catholic. Is he typically vengeful? Is he the Charles Bronson of saints? Is he the guy that interpreted Jesus's shit to read all right-wing and patriarchal or was that some other Paul?


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dream threads are usually really popular on this board

Right up there with 'What Are You Listening To Right Now.' I think your timing is just off.


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This is my theory

Until the dream I never thought about St Paul. All I knew was that he persecuted christians, got struck by lightening, and became christian. Then I found out he was some Jew that told Christians that they should be circumcised shortly before being arrested. My theory is that the Romans hired Paul to infiltrate the Christians and try to Judaize them for some reason that would make sense then (maybe to class them with the jews or put them into previously understood categories--nobody likes new ideas). So this guy comes in and tells Christians to be more like Jews before he is spirited off to "prison" -- more likely a Roman holiday. Having served his purpose, he did the rest of the damage by letter.


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Ha

I am in good company.

Among the critics of Paul the Apostle was Thomas Jefferson, who wrote that Paul was the "first corruptor of the doctrines of Jesus".


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maybe he came up with that idea

while he and Patrick Henry were making time with some drunken hussies in a vineyard!


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At their root, these dreams seem to entail some embodiment of Catholic guilt -- which I understand is redundant, given then whole notion of Catholicism rests on guilt. I wasn't raised Catholic, so I have very little reference frames to employ here. I never have spiritual dreams, which may be linked to the fact that I was brought up mildly Protestant. So my dreams are about guilt as well, but seem to lack the spiritual baggage of having St Paul and St John accosting me.

But the reference to Patrick Henry in this thread is interesting, given the existence of the right-wing fundamentalist Christian "College" called the Patrick Henry College in Virginia. Is that just an appropriation of his Founding Father status? I know nothing of him beyond the 'Give me Liberty or Bugger Me' line. He couldn't be a strong role model for today's Christian Youth if he was chasing hussies in a vineyard. Of course, the Christian Right has never worried about historical accuracy so my point is moot...


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on the rare occasion that I am not dreaming about the ritualistic, fetishistic slaughter of precious human life, I dream in arabic about firebombs and dead GI Joe Mens.

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Jon, didn't you once tell me that you a rapture-like dream?

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last night

I had a dream in which I moved from Mexico to North Africa with the greatest of ease. The scale of everything was somehow smaller and/or more accessible -- Mexico to Morocco was a two-hour ferry ride, it was easy to hop a train in Tangier and take it all the way along the south rim of the Med. The overall sense of the dream was one of amazement that travels I had presumed to be too arduous to undertake were in fact accomplished swiftly and easily. I became obsessed with going through the Khyber Pass but it took me waking up to realize that couldn't work because the Khyber Pass is between Afghanistan and Pakistan. What I take this dream to be telling me is that these things aren't as difficult as I have thought them to be and I should get off my ass and just go.

"To be truly challenging, a voyage, like a life, must rest on a firm foundation of financial unrest. Otherwise, you are doomed to a routine traverse, the kind known to yachtsmen who play with their boats at sea... cruising, it is called. Voyaging belongs to seamen, and to the wanderers of the world who cannot, or will not, fit in. If you are contemplating a voyage and you have the means, abandon the venture until your fortunes change. Only then will you know what the sea is all about. 'I've always wanted to sail to the south seas, but I can't afford it.' What these men can't afford is not to go. They are enmeshed in the cancerous discipline of security. And in the worship of security we fling our lives beneath the wheels of routine - and before we know it our lives are gone. What does a man need - really need? A few pounds of food each day, heat and shelter, six feet to lie down in - and some form of working activity that will yield a sense of accomplishment. That's all - in the material sense, and we know it. But we are brainwashed by our economic system until we end up in a tomb beneath a pyramid of time payments, mortgages, preposterous gadgetry, playthings that divert our attention for the sheer idiocy of the charade. The years thunder by, the dreams of youth grow dim where they lie caked in dust on the shelves of patience. Before we know it, the tomb is sealed. Where, then, lies the answer? In choice. Which shall it be: bankruptcy of purse or bankruptcy of life?"
--Sterling Hayden, Wanderer

I always felt as if Sterling Hayden was indicting me personally with this. Also, it was easy for him to do this shit because he was Sterling fucking Hayden.


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