Most absolutely insane show you ever did go to?

it would have to be the INMATES show at mama joe's pizza in kent ohio. Everyone was trying to burn the place down.

or maybe the Integrity, Face Value, False Hope show where the west side nazis showed up and Doland went through the window and Dwid was chasing kids into a 7-11 parking lot with an unloaded shotgun.

i like music.

I'm always suspicious of people whose big "show" stories all come from national acts. I dunno. With a few exceptions, the craziest shows I've been to have been local shows.

The one that stands out is one of Forever Youth's last shows - 20+ person wall of death, beer cans flying everywhere, 14 year olds pretty much having an orgy in the corner, everyone there got banned from the venue.

Most of the shows at 10 Weston were pretty crazy...A State show at the short-lived Aztec that included me almost getting pushed out of a window and later punching someone in the head a few times, multiple fights, people passed out outside, a couple kids narrowly escaping being crushed, and a member of one of the bands having part of a drum kit thrown into a speaker which then almost fell on him.

How do you think glass got banned from that venue?

I was cool once, and then I went outside and warmed myself up. It was uncomfortably cool, that's why I felt the need to remedy my condition.

I went and heard loud music. There was lots of booze and drugs. And then a lot of violence happened. It was cool.

What the fuck does THAT mean? Do you not think that...National Act+Bigger Crowd=More chances to get crazy? You can be all the suspicious you want, doesn't change the fact that I was there, I experienced it and those were some nutty nutty fucking shows.

Mick Fleetwood asked the crowd if they were ready for a new song. The crowd went crazy. Mick counted them off. Stevie Nicks took off her shirt and threw it into the crowd. No bra! The crowd went nuts. The guy who caught her shirt got dog piled and went out on a stretcher. Then John and Christine just stopped playing and started fucking like dogs in the street. Then Nickie started sucking off Buckingham. Mick came out from behind the drumset and stuck his drumsticks up Bob Welch's ass and he was like, "I quit!" Then Stevie fisted Christine in the asshole and pulled out a huge turd and masturbated with it. Then John Wilkinson ate her out and that pussy was clean, boy! The crowd ate it up! By the end of the song everyone was drowning in feedback and semen and blood and shit. Someone asked Stevie what the name of the song was and she told the crowd, "It's called 'the Aristocrats."

You can untwist your panties, that wasn't directed at you. It was just a side-thought that was indirectly sparked by this thread. I'm wary of people who only have show stories about big shows for a couple reasons:

1. The person saying it is an older punk who was around back in the day and saw all the well-knowns of the 70s and 80s, and will be the first to tell you that things aren't what they used to be/punk is dead/there are no good shows anymore. And I just think: hey, just because you got lazy and jaded and started going to bars all the time instead of coming out to shows anymore doesn't mean it's not still going on. There's some amazing shit going on right now, and if you don't think so then you're not paying attention.

or

2. It's someone my age or younger who mostly goes to reunion shows, complains about the current shows (that they almost never bother to go to), and talks at great length about how awesome things used to be/how they wish they were alive back when things were perfect and great and punk meant something or whatever.