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Too Many Draculas, or: Public Domain Supervillain Theatre

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Scene: Central Park, NYC, NY, mid-late '70s. Dracula is fighting the X-Men and putting the hurt on them! Desperate, Wolverine pops two of his claws into the shape of The True Cross in a last-ditch effort to ward off the King of Vampires. Dracula laughs, makes a comment to the effect that that old chestnut only works if the wielder really believes, and gives with the shellacking. The apex/nadir of Chris Claremont cheesy/great scripting? Regardless, Dracula's virtual ubiquity is one of the many things I love about thirty-year-old comic books. At one point he was even in the Defenders. I was going to make a snide comment about the Hulk being a charter member of the Defenders but then I remembered that he is also a charter member of the Avengers. The big-name Marvel super-hero teams are not as exclusive as they would like you to think. The JLA has similar secret woes (although not to the extent of letting Dracula in).

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This reminds me of 6th grade

This reminds me of 6th grade when Paco made his own comic with all his favorite characters in Marvel comics. It was unheard of. He drew mean Hulk.


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Flippers paco?

You must remember this was contemporaneous with the Uranium Age when Peter David was writing Vegas Mob Enforcer Hulk. Then Image and Spawn happened. Comics had so far to fall.


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but i am getting off track

I don't know why I am doing all this cogitating about Dracula other than that I am watching GRAVE OF THE VAMPIRE (1973) starring Michael Pataki and Bill Smith, one of the few vampire movies to address the perils of teen pregnancy and the miserable existence of the American graduate student. I guess I want to know why vampires always have to wear capes even when it is the 1970s. It seems like an affectation.


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I thought vampires wore the

I thought vampires wore the clothes they died in.


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okay, doctor van helsing

Share with us some further scintillating droplets from your fount of knowledge regarding vampires.


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Apparently they would eat at

Apparently they would eat at Subway were they still mortal.


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apologies

I am just cheesed off about this particular vampire. First he is a Massachusetts Puritan but then turns up as a Depression-era rapist. Then in the Nixon era he becomes that worst of villains, a tenured college professor. Why the fuck would he wear a cape.


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did wolverine really do

did wolverine really do that?


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YIKES!


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Sinker's Guillotine cut off the panel where Nightcrawler sez, "YIKES!" You'll have to trust me. Should I post the panels where Wolverine is talking to the leprechaun?


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I imagined Wolverine clawing a cross into someone's flesh.


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another thing

Marvel also tied SHANG-CHI: MASTER OF KUNG-FU into Sax Rohmer's Fu Manchu novels 'cuz Fu was Shang's paw and all manner of supporting characters like Sir Denis Nayland Smith not only showed up but stuck around. But this has been retconned in post-'94 Shang-Chi appearances. It seems that copyright law was looser in the '70s, along with many other things.


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not really retconned

It's still obviously Fu Manchu, they just refer to him for legal reasons as 'The Master' or some shit. It's like if Sherlock Holmes was your Dad but you had to address him as 'The Great Detective' every time he showed up.


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apropos of sherlock holmes being your dad

The only time Sherlock Holmes was sexually attracted to a woman he referred to her exclusively as 'The Woman.' So I guess it all makes some sense in the magical land of permanent archetypes. It also goes to show why Holmes is the mold for all miserable nerd wish-fulfillment power-fantasy proxy-heroes from Conan the Barbarian on down.


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Wasn't he a gay cokehead. I

Wasn't he a gay cokehead. I thought that's why he got kicked out of Scotland Yard. "Damn it, Holmes. You're the best detective we got but you failed your drug test and you bugger all the rookies. I should fire you. But damn it the press like your style. So I am promoting you to private detective."


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yeah possibly

Thus 'the only time.' I don't even remember the name of the cop still on the force sympathetic to Holmes. Lestrade? That rôle is an inevitable and thankless one in all detective fiction -- having to play Green Lantern to Green Arrow. I always think of Wesley Addy as Pat Chambers in KISS ME DEADLY. Aldrich uses Addy in nearly every one of his movies and it's in the same rôle every time, he has to be the exasperated yet responsible friend, as to Palance in THE BIG KNIFE.


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never mind

nearly 1:1 scale replication of earlier post


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oui hey

Ja, now that I remember, doesn't it seem like Doyle giving Lestrade a Gallic surname is some kind of semi-private joke? Or a half-assed reference to C. Auguste Dupin?


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Now you may have some inkling of what it is like to be me all the time, where your entire intellectual process occurs in a steel-wool fog within which any particular recollectable detail is more likely to be wildly inaccurate than to have any basis in reality. That said, what this thread is really about is HERCULES SMASH SUPERCOMPOOPER!


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Slightly off subject but

I just realized that the Joker is from the Man Who Laughs. Especially Batman the movie and the Killing Joke version of the Joker.


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This thread.

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Nightcrawler with the bark cross is amazing.

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